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Sat, Sep. 11th, 2004, 11:45 pm
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Long time, no post.

I've been one busy bee lately at my new job. I haven't really been online much at all. Nor have I been keeping up on the news like I used to. That being said, the end of the world is nigh.

A 2.5 mile mushroom cloud was reported in North Korea near the Chinese border.

Okay, so it isn't really the end of the world. It's just some pretty fucked up news. Everybody already figured North Korea had the bomb anyways; I'm surprised at how shocked I am to hear a probable confirmation.

I have to ask myself though, what bothers me most about the situation?....

a) We started picking a fight with Iraq who at the time we knew Iraq might, maybe, kinda sorta could have had weapons of mass destruction related program activities; North Korea stood up and declared that they really did constitute a threat; we ignored them and invaded Iraq anyways.

b) North Korea is working on warheads/missiles that may or may not be able to reach Alaska/the US mainland. (Risk to us.)

c) They test flew a missile over Japan a few years back. They could hit other highly populated areas such as Seoul as well. (Risk to the Japanese and others/risk to us through the world's economy.)

d) I'm hearing about the story three days late by word of mouth, and the source for the information isn't the CIA, or Sandy Berger, Tom Ridge, or anyone who should be warning me- it's coming from a foreign news agency.

e) It's unconfirmed. I doubt a guy could light a cigarette in North Korea without the CIA knowing about it thanks to all the friggin' satellites we have and whatnot. Am I really supposed to believe that something as falsifiable as a hugeungous radiation-filled nuclear blast could possibly be confused with a fucking forest fire?! I remember when Pakistan tested their first nuke, I saw that shit on the evening news right away. I remember seeing satellites images from huge forests fires all over the world- from Florida to China. What gives?


I'm torn between the last two.

This all might just be a result of my not keeping up with shit, but I haven't heard word one about this from say, an elected (or appointed) official of any sort. This is all very unsettling. Anybody out there know anything?

Sun, Sep. 12th, 2004 05:22 pm (UTC)
bord_du_rasoir

I first heard about this story this morning on Face the Nation. The report was brief: Colin Powell states that an explosion which caused a plume of smoke in the norhtern region of North Korea is not from a nuclear weapon...they said that the matter was under investigation.

Cover-up? I don't know. The media's been saturated with Hurricane Ivan & the back & forth election rhetoric this week....it's like Iraq no longer exists except in the words of politicians.

In response to your question a, Condoleeza Rice said, in defense of the administration, that they'd created six-party talks with six member nations whereby all parties involved boldly told North Korea that they did not want North Korea to have nuclear weapons. So, just because they didn't go to war with the North Koreans doesnt mean the administration completely ignored the threat. But, clearly, as you argue, North Korea is the larger threat when compared to Iraq. And Iran is believed to possess or is the process of possessing 5 nuclear weapons and openly operates its nuclear weapons facilities and likewise aided al Queda as it crossed its borders. Russia's nuclear weapons & materials lie sprawled across the country largely underguarded. This is really not a time to have our resoucres spread so thin with such animosity from the rest of the world.

Tue, Sep. 14th, 2004 08:01 pm (UTC)
desidiosus

I heard the North is saying they "blew up a mountain" to make way for a power plant or something. A British politician (Foreign Minister, perhaps?) stated that he was scheduled to be in North Korea in a day or two and that he wanted to see the site. I read a story today stating that he was in Korea, but there was no mention of the mushroom cloud; only of proposed six-nation talks regarding North Korea's nuclear programs. I still believe this is not an issue that should require verification in person; radiation should be detectable or not. Why is there still a question about this?

The US was dragged into the six nation talks. Condi doesn't deserve credit. N. Korea wanted talks simply with us; we told them to sort it out with their neighbors only; a compromise involving both us and the neighboring nations was reached. The situation could have been diffused early on quite easily. The North's original "demand" was a non-aggression treaty with us in exchange for ending their weapons program. In face of our new preemptive war policy, it's not an entirely unreasonable demand if you ask me. We wouldn't play ball though, so now the situation is a bit tense. Through not taking an easy and effective solution so that we could appear "tough" (presumably), the administration is horribly negligent.

I completely agree with the last few sentences you wrote. Exactly.

Mon, Sep. 13th, 2004 09:30 pm (UTC)
_b_a_r_e: sssshhh it's me...

add me.

Wed, Sep. 15th, 2004 08:10 pm (UTC)
desidiosus: Re: sssshhh it's me...

-k-

How ya doin'?

Thu, Sep. 16th, 2004 01:43 am (UTC)
_b_a_r_e: Re: sssshhh it's me...

much better...no longer on probation...finally! ummmm school is dope , and i ate shit today in theater class, i think i bomb the test.....you know once i get it together i really gotta take senorita franco out...i'm waiting for my financial aide to come...we'll see. how bout you and gracie pooh?

Sat, Sep. 18th, 2004 09:27 pm (UTC)
_b_a_r_e: do you still know how to trace ips addresses?

....should be interesting...i have gut instinct about something. your mom says "hi"

Tue, Oct. 5th, 2004 01:21 am (UTC)
desidiosus: Re: do you still know how to trace ips addresses?

Kinda. Use a program on Windows called TracerT. Type it in and it'll bounce the number to its origin.

Mon, Sep. 27th, 2004 06:35 am (UTC)
my_desideratum

there was an article about it in the l.a. times too